Comments on: Bush Lies. The Economy Sucks. http://bitchslappin.net/king-bush/bush-lies-the-economy-sucks The Plog Politicians love to hate. Thu, 16 Oct 2008 01:27:54 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.2 By: Vc http://bitchslappin.net/king-bush/bush-lies-the-economy-sucks#comment-35 Vc Fri, 03 Nov 2006 01:48:41 +0000 http://bitchslappin.net/king-bush/bush-lies-the-economy-sucks#comment-35 No, things are not different "out here". The "starter home" here goes for about $350k. That's 3 tiny bedrooms, 1.5 tiny bathrooms, on a 50 x 90 lot. With no grass or trees. And the appliances suck. So what's the solution? There isn't one, because the "later generations" ARE those "I WANT IT NOW" folks - and they've been assured they have the RIGHT to HAVE it now. No, things are not different “out here”. The “starter home” here goes for about $350k. That’s 3 tiny bedrooms, 1.5 tiny bathrooms, on a 50 x 90 lot. With no grass or trees. And the appliances suck.

So what’s the solution? There isn’t one, because the “later generations” ARE those “I WANT IT NOW” folks - and they’ve been assured they have the RIGHT to HAVE it now.

]]> By: bj http://bitchslappin.net/king-bush/bush-lies-the-economy-sucks#comment-33 bj Thu, 02 Nov 2006 06:11:22 +0000 http://bitchslappin.net/king-bush/bush-lies-the-economy-sucks#comment-33 Things must be different out there. In this area and east of here the "median" house price for the rest of the country can barely buy a doghouse. Two incomes are needed just to buy a "starter-home", and we're not talking a palace, we're talking pretty bare bones. Me, personally, I'd rather us taxpayers build some daycare centers here in the US than pay Haliburton to build schools in Iraq, but if we did that people would start calling us socialists. As long as we pay big companies to do it in other countries for other people than our own it's being a patriot. I never did understand that. Things must be different out there. In this area and east of here the “median” house price for the rest of the country can barely buy a doghouse. Two incomes are needed just to buy a “starter-home”, and we’re not talking a palace, we’re talking pretty bare bones.

Me, personally, I’d rather us taxpayers build some daycare centers here in the US than pay Haliburton to build schools in Iraq, but if we did that people would start calling us socialists. As long as we pay big companies to do it in other countries for other people than our own it’s being a patriot. I never did understand that.

]]> By: Vc http://bitchslappin.net/king-bush/bush-lies-the-economy-sucks#comment-32 Vc Thu, 02 Nov 2006 04:05:14 +0000 http://bitchslappin.net/king-bush/bush-lies-the-economy-sucks#comment-32 Oh - and give me a break. The only reasons for "needing" two incomes? You can't figure out how to stop having kids (oh hey, how about ZERO POP GROWTH - can we get that on asap?); you have a house you can't afford; you have cars you can't afford to drive (uninsured because you can't have the BMWs and Jags and pay the insurance on them); you take "millionaire" vacations in Aspen or Vail; you own a second million dollar vacation home; and the toys go on and on.... And of course your toys - the house, the fancy cars, the snowmobiles, the boats, etc. etc. ad infinitum ad nauseam - are uninsured because it would cost several tens-of-thousands of dollars to insure it all, and you'd rather play with the money - and besides, if something happens, the government (aka ME the taxpayer and the other millions like me) will have to cough up to fix your problem. Yup. I'm a hard-ass. Oh - and give me a break. The only reasons for “needing” two incomes? You can’t figure out how to stop having kids (oh hey, how about ZERO POP GROWTH - can we get that on asap?); you have a house you can’t afford; you have cars you can’t afford to drive (uninsured because you can’t have the BMWs and Jags and pay the insurance on them); you take “millionaire” vacations in Aspen or Vail; you own a second million dollar vacation home; and the toys go on and on….

And of course your toys - the house, the fancy cars, the snowmobiles, the boats, etc. etc. ad infinitum ad nauseam - are uninsured because it would cost several tens-of-thousands of dollars to insure it all, and you’d rather play with the money - and besides, if something happens, the government (aka ME the taxpayer and the other millions like me) will have to cough up to fix your problem.

Yup. I’m a hard-ass.

]]> By: Vc http://bitchslappin.net/king-bush/bush-lies-the-economy-sucks#comment-31 Vc Thu, 02 Nov 2006 03:57:38 +0000 http://bitchslappin.net/king-bush/bush-lies-the-economy-sucks#comment-31 Were I in that situation, I wouldn't be in that situation. We planned better - we were NEVER in a position where if EITHER OF US had become unemployed, our remaining money wouldn't have paid our bills. Sorry, this one is NOT materially the government (much less Dubya's) fault. This is the fault of people who are conspicuous consumers and have no "money smarts". This is people who are whining babies of the "I want it and I want it NOW" attitude. This is people blaming everything THEY did wrong on the government - and expecting the government to bail them out. It smacks of socialism. I will NEVER agree to socialist anything. And really, there's no reason to drag Katrina into it - that's a whole other situation, and has very little to do with idiots who can't figure out how to pay their bills simply because they would rather play than deal with their obligations. Were I in that situation, I wouldn’t be in that situation. We planned better - we were NEVER in a position where if EITHER OF US had become unemployed, our remaining money wouldn’t have paid our bills.

Sorry, this one is NOT materially the government (much less Dubya’s) fault. This is the fault of people who are conspicuous consumers and have no “money smarts”. This is people who are whining babies of the “I want it and I want it NOW” attitude. This is people blaming everything THEY did wrong on the government - and expecting the government to bail them out. It smacks of socialism. I will NEVER agree to socialist anything.

And really, there’s no reason to drag Katrina into it - that’s a whole other situation, and has very little to do with idiots who can’t figure out how to pay their bills simply because they would rather play than deal with their obligations.

]]> By: bj http://bitchslappin.net/king-bush/bush-lies-the-economy-sucks#comment-30 bj Thu, 02 Nov 2006 03:14:43 +0000 http://bitchslappin.net/king-bush/bush-lies-the-economy-sucks#comment-30 Vicki, though I agree a lot of these situations are self created and more or less deserve what they've gotten, a whole bunch aren't. For instance, two income families who become one income families due to all the corporate mergers and downsizing-- a situation that's hit this area very hard since we're in telecomm and financial services country. Then there's Katrina, and other natural disasters (such as the three major Delaware River floods in my area) which have put a lot of people into situations they didn't plan on being in. And there's the financial situation of a lot of our Reservist and National Guard troops who were called up for this blasted war and find, when they get home, that though they have a job, it's not the well paying one they had when they were sent out. Three guys I know were in this situation. Their salaries were cut in half. They had some fallback resources but it still puts a hurting on things, and some were better prepared than others, not to mention that no one expected it would go on as long as it has. Life is something that happens when you're making other plans. There's been an awful lot of life happening the last few years since Bush took office. Granted he didn't cause Katrina or the flooding in this area, but his policies and his appointees to certain offices haven't helped those who were caught out, and other policies of his administration have contributed greatly to that hardship in many cases. How would you feel if you were half of a two income couple who, all of a sudden, found you were a one income couple due to layoff and, when you try to sell your home so you could continue to be financially responsible and downsize to a lesser property, found out that your current house wasn't worth what you owed on it? Believe me, this scenario is not unusual anymore. Vicki, though I agree a lot of these situations are self created and more or less deserve what they’ve gotten, a whole bunch aren’t. For instance, two income families who become one income families due to all the corporate mergers and downsizing– a situation that’s hit this area very hard since we’re in telecomm and financial services country. Then there’s Katrina, and other natural disasters (such as the three major Delaware River floods in my area) which have put a lot of people into situations they didn’t plan on being in. And there’s the financial situation of a lot of our Reservist and National Guard troops who were called up for this blasted war and find, when they get home, that though they have a job, it’s not the well paying one they had when they were sent out. Three guys I know were in this situation. Their salaries were cut in half. They had some fallback resources but it still puts a hurting on things, and some were better prepared than others, not to mention that no one expected it would go on as long as it has.

Life is something that happens when you’re making other plans. There’s been an awful lot of life happening the last few years since Bush took office. Granted he didn’t cause Katrina or the flooding in this area, but his policies and his appointees to certain offices haven’t helped those who were caught out, and other policies of his administration have contributed greatly to that hardship in many cases.

How would you feel if you were half of a two income couple who, all of a sudden, found you were a one income couple due to layoff and, when you try to sell your home so you could continue to be financially responsible and downsize to a lesser property, found out that your current house wasn’t worth what you owed on it? Believe me, this scenario is not unusual anymore.

]]> By: Vc http://bitchslappin.net/king-bush/bush-lies-the-economy-sucks#comment-29 Vc Thu, 02 Nov 2006 02:45:42 +0000 http://bitchslappin.net/king-bush/bush-lies-the-economy-sucks#comment-29 Well, gee.... so people are biting it because they haven't a clue about: 1. How much money they actually have coming in (known as "cash flow") 2. How much it actually costs them to live on a monthly basis (the hard numbers: housing, fuel, food, utilities, insurance, medical, child care) 3. But they're all still buying their toys, their takeout food, hitting the malls on shopping sprees And they don't get why they have no money and are losing their homes? Oh how sad. How about people just live within their means and stop blaming everyone else for their plight? "People are having a harder time coming up with cash to cover mortgage debt." Well then people need to stop playing with their money instead of paying their bills. Sorry - they have no one to blame but themselves. Well, gee…. so people are biting it because they haven’t a clue about:

1. How much money they actually have coming in (known as “cash flow”)

2. How much it actually costs them to live on a monthly basis (the hard numbers: housing, fuel, food, utilities, insurance, medical, child care)

3. But they’re all still buying their toys, their takeout food, hitting the malls on shopping sprees

And they don’t get why they have no money and are losing their homes? Oh how sad. How about people just live within their means and stop blaming everyone else for their plight?

“People are having a harder time coming up with cash to cover mortgage debt.” Well then people need to stop playing with their money instead of paying their bills.

Sorry - they have no one to blame but themselves.

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